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The Devil
The Devil

No, I said race was a FACTOR in how we perceive Chris Brown as it is in everything. I never said race was the ONLY thing involved. That was YOU in your "doth protests to much" need to race and deem things "unracist".

A young, tall, Black man does anything remotely aggresive and it's gonna be a problem.

You can Google rock stars, movie stars, athletes, and everybody else who have done the SAME THINGS and have not paid the same price that Chris Brown has.

That is the definition of HYPOCRISY.

All I said was he should be treated the same by the PRESS as every other motherfucker who commits that crime is and he HAS NOT BEEN.

You know that and so do I.

But there's an element of classism, because as lazydayz stated, the fact that Rihanna is a celebrity has hurt Chris Brown. That's unfair because it essentially makes non-famous women to be less valuable than famous women in the society.

There is an element of race in there because guys like Charlie Sheen and Tommy Lee have LONG histories of drugs and abuse and they still walk around to day not being crucified for the rest of their lives for their crimes. I'd bet Chris Brown would trade 6 mos in jail for the ability to have his career back like Sheen and Lee and others have gotten.

There's an element of SEXISM in there because by all accounts RIHANNA hit him first with a shoe and even sang songs about how "she's gonna fight a man" and has a notoriously bad temper, yet NOBODY talks about Rihanna's role in the incident.

Age plays a role in it because Sheen is an old guy and not seen as "threatening" regardless of the times he beats and threatens women.

It's a complicated issues. You were so quick to SEIZE on ONE thing that you didn't even realize the point I was trying to make.

Caitie Harmful
Caitie Harmful

This is all I have to say...as an abuse survivor...it doesn't matter what fucking color you are...you hit me, I'm gonna fucking ruin your life. You hit my friend, I'm going to ruin your life. You hit my sister, I'm going to ruin your life. It doesn't matter who gets hit or who's doing the hitting. It's wrong. Period.

PERIOD.

END.

OF.

DISCUSSION.

lazydayz
lazydayz

No, I'm not endorsing that. And I agree that people are being hypocritical, exactly for the reason you just mentioned. Just not with race in mind. The media and everyone is fucked and there perception of things is fucked. I really don't want this to blow into another racial discussion, so you and Phil can have at it if you please.

Phillip McCracken
Phillip McCracken

thank you. i will not be arguing with you anymore about this since this line just proved not only how blind, but how fucking ignorant you really are...

"Chris Brown accused of ONE heinous act"

ACCUSED?!?!?! seriously, are you THAT fucking ignorant? DUDE PLEADED FUCKING GUILTY!!!

HE PLEADED GUILTY. how is that ACCUSED?

its NOT ACCUSED.

he pleaded guilty.

you are a fucking ignorant moron. take care. and have fun living in your fantasy world where you ignore real world facts because they dont fit your arguement.

Phillip McCracken
Phillip McCracken

I dont understand your point. charlie sheen deserves to be in jail. as does any dude who beats a woman.

you basically are saying that people are coming down on him cause hes black. thats complete bullshit cause like i JUST SAID.... Charlie Sheen is MOST LIKELY going to jail....

DID CHRIS BROWN GO TO JAIL?

NO.

as for "people coming down on a young brotha" you must not live ANYWHERE near NY radio listening area because one of the ONLY people on the radio MORE right now than Chris brown is like Usher, drake and trey songz.

and if people were coming down on him so badly and hes such an embaressment, why are all the in the moment hot artists putting him on more tracks NOW than he EVER WAS?

dude u are insane. Chris brown's career is BETTER now than it was before he beat the shit out of rhianna.

dude is getting more tracks with people who couldnt have given a fuck about him 5 years ago.

so, and i never say this, you are clearly not only deluded but WRONG in your assessment of his fucking career.

either that or your only paying attention to what you need to pay attention to, to try and make an arguement, which in turn makes you look ignorant with all the chris brown thats on the fucking radio right now.

The Devil
The Devil

Maybe, after beating up women for 25 years(famous and non-famous) he's finally POSSIBLY gonna do sometime.

But wait, what's that ?

Charlie Sheen walked out of community service because they wouldn't let him smoke. . Really?

The judge didn't immediately throw him in prison.

Would they do that for a regular person???

Chris Brown accused of ONE heinous act and everybody's out to destroy the guy a motherfucker who's committed dozens is the highest paid, most popular motherfucker on TV, and allowed to game the justice system and set the standards on his community service and jail time and yet NOBODY's outraged.

GTFOH

The Devil
The Devil

And you say it like the fact that everybody's mad at him because she's famous is right too?

Even if it's totally race neutral, isn't it wrong to hold him to a more stringent statement than say if he beat up Jane Smith down the street? Isn't that JUST AS HYPOCRITICAL????

It's okay to beat women, just don't beat up famous ones????

Really????

You're endorsing that???

The Devil
The Devil

Charlie Sheen abused Denise Richards, didn't he?

Charlie Sheen abused Chloe Jones, didn't he?

Charlie Sheen abused Ginger Lynn, didn't he?

Phil Spector beat up Ronnie Spector and every woman he ever had didn't he?

Tommy Lee beat up Pamela Anderson Lee, didn't he?

Phillip McCracken
Phillip McCracken

i agree 100%. i dont understand what him being black has ANYTHING to do with it. i mean, is the dude saying BECAUSE hes black he think people shouldnt come down on a "young brotha" when he does anything wrong? ESPECIALLY when its something as horrendous as beating a woman?

it looks like Sheen is gonna do jail time. how much jail time did chris brown do? how much jail time did tito ortiz do? Shane Merriman?

sure seems like the "old cracka" is the one gonna go to jail for his crimes, NOT the "young brothas" or IDK even know how to quote tito ortiz... maybe devil can help me out by suggesting what i should call him other than a piece of shit for beating a woman....

so maybe i should be asking WHY is "the man" or people coming down so hard on an "ol cracka" when people like chris brown DIDNT get jail time for the same thing.

they are ALL ASSHOLES.

get over it. anyone of any color or creed that beats a women is a fucking scumbag and deserves to be in jail. IDC if they are white, black, yellow, green, orange WHATEVER.

lazydayz
lazydayz

Oh christ, the fact that he's black has nothing to do with him being vilified. It's the fact that he beat up another extremely famous person, who was a woman. If John Mayer beat the shit out of Rihanna he would have faced the same backlash. And did you see what he did to her face? Kinda hard to forgive the guy after seeing those pics.

lazydayz
lazydayz

Meh, he coulda sold it better.

FallenRawToast
FallenRawToast

Indeed it is, and screw those who call us emotionless or whatever.

Boz
Boz

asshole.

The Devil
The Devil

Oh fuck these outraged motherfuckers.

Charlie Sheen tries to kill every bitch he ever been with, and yet is the richest most popular guy on a family show in primetime. The hypocrisy people show just when they want a reason to come down on a young brotha is disgusting.

I mean, fuck, since when has a domestic violence charge ruined your career? In Hollywood or music industry?

He was wrong, he went to court, and has spent the last 2 years cryin' and apologizin'. Leave the motherfucka alone, or go into Hollywood and drag all them wife beatin' motherfuckers through the mud.

FoxyRoxy
FoxyRoxy

Actually, after further review, it's really corny and I lol'd when he started crying. Yes, I'm a bitch, I don't give a shit.

FoxyRoxy
FoxyRoxy

Call me emotionless or whatever, but this is kinda corny.

Hannah
Hannah

Wasn't he no allowed to do a tribute at last years BET awards because of what happened? Jackass.

RDouble365
RDouble365

"oh please like me again, I won't beat up any more bitches, promise"..............!! Not buying it........

pills
pills

why not forgive him and move on? other artists have done the same and much worse, but people still love them. i always thought it was a matter of who he beat, not the fact that he beat a woman. had it been some nameless chick,it would not have been as big of a deal. im not saying the fact that a girl isnt famous takes away from the severity of the crime, but some people just wouldnt care as much.

Hanson McCock
Hanson McCock

FUCK THIS WOMAN ABUSING CUNT!!!

If anyone did what he did to anyone I knew (blood related), I'd straight up slit their fucking throat. Why would any man want to hurt a lady? To exercise their power over a helpless female? Fucking cunt, I hope no one ever buys this prick's albums. Look at him paying tribute to MJ, trying to win over some fans, where's Kanye West when you need him. I can't stand this bitch, and I can't believe how badly he fucked up Rihanna (Maybe that's why she dresses so weird now lol)...But seriously, Dear Chris Brown, see you in hell you fucking worthless cunt!!!

Mundo
Mundo

IMHO...people can imitate MJ all they want..but can never duplicate him...aside all the scandals and plastic work he had done...he was unique..and will stay unique and will never be forgotten..RIP. And I also say that for the other few, that have been imitated countless of times...James Brown...Elvis...etc.

Freep
Freep

part of me wants to tsay its an act and planned, "look at yourself and make a change"

[Chris' people] look at how you used to beat woman and now you've changed. brilliant! make sure to break down when that part comes on.

on the other hand the tears and emotion could be completely sincere, he is a little bitch after all...

and i agree Usher wouldve been a better choice but he still has a career to deal with unlike chris who wasnt doing much

AlinaMaria
AlinaMaria

I'm just going to say it.

He is a total bellend.

skilligan
skilligan

all that crying he is doing, he should have showed that sensitivity when he was swinging on a girl