TomKat: Is Katie Tommie's Katihuahua?

Tom smothers ambitious girl

Spiritual sickness is to deny what God made

Leave girl alone, admit gay

Katie Holmes is an asshole by going with this dick - just by the way he was acting you now he dosent respect her and probably slaps her around. he is a self centered little fuckin crybaby that dosent deserve Katie. She is now stuck he polluted her and she knows that and is probably saying what did i do. the guy is a DICK and she is not far behind now. She definately lost alot of fans including myself, KATIE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ?

katie will be just michael jacksons wife a walking baby machine. I hope that she is smarter than that other idiot and not sign away her rights to this child, even if it is his

which i doubt. she is not bainwashed just stupid how she can say she really loves him is beyond me. if this marriage last a year it will be a miracle. i feel sorry for that baby with those two as parents one is idiot and the other a pompus asshole.

he's totally crazy and a moron. I don't even think he's a good actor. He doesn't "act" he just does a bunch of action movies that don't take too much talent. He gets into good action movies with good directors somehow.

he should be on that Hillary Duff page w/ his horse teeth!

Did you see his interview on Friday morning with Matt Lauer on the Today show. He is a FREAK! He went crazy talking about prescription drugs and how noone should take them. He was genuinely pissed off and just flipped on Matt. He looked like the biggest ass ever!

That is a very interesting theory. I see how all these celebrities find success and riches, but it might also be the other way around: Maybe BECAUSE they have success and riches they are bored and have nothing to want/wish for , so they turn to this religion beacuse it is something more "entertaining" for them.???????

Both are possible...and equally as strange.

I was linked to this discussion via an email from a friends. It's quite intriguing, I must say.

I have a theory.

I recall from years back that Tom's bio said he suffered quite badly with mumps in his formative years. I think that left him diagnosed "sterile," and when Nicole was pregnant, he was convinced it was not his child. It is possible he has labored under the impression, or actual diagnose of being sterile, and was convinced she had a liaison with another man. He immediately filed for divorce, while claiming at the time: "She knows perfectly well why I filed for divorce!"

But could the kid have been his? Or, maybe he was upset because they never really had sex because he doesn't "swing that way" and THAT's why he left her?

Of course, by then Nic had long before sold her soul to him for career advancement beyond her wildest Australian dreams.

I think Tom Cruise has a definite agenda. He tried to mold Penelope (ugh) Cruz in the same manner he did Nicole Kidman. And, now he has moved onto yet another impressionable and career-hungry female.

I think he suffers with Short Man Syndrome. Yet, how interesting it is that so many in this religious bowel movement find such outrageous success and riches. It's as if--they've sold their souls to--The Devil?

It's because she has been staring at one of those spinning circle machines for days so she will be brainwashed thouroghly and the sun hurts her eyes now. I believe the pain would be similar to getting your eyes dilated.

By the way, what's with those oversized shades that Katie is wearing? Did someone beat her up or something?

I live in Louisville, Kentucky where Tom Cruise (not his real last name, of course) grew up, and I have friends who went to high school with him. He actually went to a private Catholic high school (St. Xavier). Yes, he was once Catholic! One of my friends was even on the wrestling team with him, and according to him, he was a real asshole even back then! My mother knows his uncle, and he's a jerk too! He thinks that since he did a cameo in one of his movies that he is royalty and deserves special priveledges. Most of Tom Cruise's family sounds really screwed up to me, except for maybe his poor mother.

I just saw him on Dave Letterman last night and he's so annoying. He just kept laughing hysterically at everything Dave said with his big-old horse-mouth open. I really hate him. Or maybe I just hate people who fanatically pressure other people to believe that aliens are our fore-fathers.

Tom is so gay man. He probably married her so quick so she'd sign the non-disclosure of his gayness agreements.

Wow, isnt he a little old for..ALL OF THEM? what the hell, he tried getting Lindsay?! Thats screwed up. I am surprised he didnt go for Dakota, he likes the blondes. I just saw the epidose of Oprah with him as the special guest and Katie as the surprise guest...Tom Cruise is seriously a freak. He has an african american son and when asked about what he "thinks" about that, he retaliated at Oprah, indignantly saying "What does race matter?!?!?" talk about defensive. Obviously hes insecure about his BLACK son when hes pasty white. OH, and he like smothered Katie over and over in front of the audience, after literally dragging her off from backstage. I felt embarassed for him. Just some more weird stuff about tom cruise.

Here's the articale about how Tom went through four other young actresses before convincing Katie Holmes that it was in her best interest to have a "relationship" with him:

"Cruise Encounters of the Third kind

Katie Holmes may have fallen for it, but Tom Cruise’s sci-fi seduction technique scared the bejeezus out of Scarlett Johansson, a source close to the actress says. Weeks before he began wooing his brainwashed bride-to-be, Cruise made repeated phone calls to the 19-year-old starlet—who was then set to co-star with him in Mission Impossible III—imploring her to meet him at the Scientology Celebrity Center in L.A. But when the actress finally agreed, the supposedly professional get-together took an oddly spiritual turn. “[Cruise] took me into this room, which was stifling hot, and was showing me all kinds of info about joining the church,� Johansson told our source. “The whole time he didn’t even offer me a cookie!� Instead, he offered her dinner—and a glimpse into the Twilight Zone.

After two hours of proselytizing, our source says Cruise opened a door to reveal a second room full of upper-level Scientologists who had been waiting to dine with the pair, at which point the cool-headed ingenue politely excused herself. Soon after the meeting, Johansson dropped out of Mission Impossible III, reportedly due to "scheduling conflicts". After striking out with Johansson, Cruise reportedly turned his attentions to 24-year-old Jessica Alba, 22-year-old Kate Bosworth, and 18-year-old Lindsay Lohan, before settling on the 26-year-old Holmes. As far we know, Cruise’s War of the Worlds co-star, Dakota Fanning, was never under consideration."

Caz...why does he have to pretend and pay some silly little girl to be his "girlfriend"? Was Nicole faking it too, or did he JUST decide to be gay? I think he's probably a dandy as well, but just wondeing what you think because there are quite a few gay men who are acrors and "out".

The thing that freaked me out the most about the article the mostwas the following:

"a local TV producer here in New York, was too afraid to discuss the situation"

She dropped everyone from her close friends, family and work circle and they don't want to discuss it because they are in fear? That says it all I think!

Oh and by the way he is gay, mate of mine met him and his boyfriend at a celebrity tennis match.

If I was being paid $5 million dollars for 5 years work I'd walk behind him too ;)

Oh my god tammy's article like literally freaked me out! i have now come to the already suspected revelation that scientology is seriously a fanatic cult out to DESTROY THE WORLD!! AAHHH!! well not quite, but still, the fact that she went missing for SIXTEEN DAYS then came back and got rid of some people that were close to her in her circle of friends is weird. AND ITS EVEN WEIRDER THAT some of those people she got rid of were against scientologist beliefs (weren't they? or am i making that up?) I feel bad for her...she should go like Nicole Kidman and dump his ass ASAP...OR IS IT TOO LATE?!?!?!?!?! AAAHHHH.

Chris Klein was her fiancé and she dated Josh Hartnett briefly after her and Chris' relationship went kapoot. It says all that in the article I posted earlier. I have no idea what they think of all this. They are probably laughing at her.

I guess on of them was a boyfrind and one was a fiance & five-year relationship

Does anyone out there know what Josh Hartnett or Chris Klein think of all this?

No, I didn't see that but I heard about how she was acting like a giddy school girl that has a crush on someone. He acts like a freak on all the talk shows too. I feel bad for her as she is young and very impressionable. I think he (and his cult) has completely brainwashed her. It is crazyness!

My opinion of him completely changed in the past few months. he's a nut job. Katie too. Did you see her on David Letterman? She made a complete fool out of herself.

NO WONDER NICOLE DIVORCED HIS CRAZY ASS!

THAT SEEMS REALLY COO-COO TO ME TOO. AS FAR AS WHAT I PUT EARLIER...MAYBE KATIE WAS BEING "CLEANED OFF - BY INCIDENT 1 AND INCIDENT 2" DURING THE 16 DAYS NOONE CAN ACCOUNT FOR?

Tammy, I read all that stuff too. Poor girl, that Katie. I think she just got "brainwashed". I hope she knows...it won't make her any better of an actress.

Farmgirl has a point, but Christianity and the Mormon religion are not seen by most people as "a cult" or "strange." Scientologists rely on a belief system that is, on the whole, taboo for all religions...that our higher power is something other than a god...an ALIEN. There are no ancient relics describing this religion. I know that the Hebrews, Muslims, Christians, et al. all have some "beginning to their religion"...but none of them are a science fiction writer who had such a hige ego that he thought he would start a religion based on his crazy ideas. It's just not okay. Farmgirl, I welcome you to learn about Scientology then defend it.

HEre's also the "story of the human race" as told by L. Ron Hubbard. This is what Scientologists believe: (You can go to www.scientlogy-kills.org to see more)

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.

He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert.

The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful.

One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.

One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.

You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small.

Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.

Good luck.

After Hubbard had made these remarkable "discoveries", Scientologists - the majority of whom were science fiction fans, not at all coincidentally - also began to "recall" Invader Forces and implants. This allowed the following definitions to be made (taken from the Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary, 1975):

IS THIS OFF THE WALL? wHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

Perhaps Scientology is much like other religions, where you are expected to go out and convert others. How come it is considered weird to try and convert people when he is a Scientologist, but not for Christians or Mormons? I personally think they're ALL weird (religious fanatics) but don't pick on Scientology as being the only religion where people are fanatical about it!!

BELOW IS AN ARTICLE BY ROGER FRIEDMAN FROM FOX NEWS THAT I HAVE COPIED AND PASTING BUT IT BRINGS UP ALOT OF GOOD POINTS MENTIONED BY JACQUE EARLIER IN THIS POST! I WOULD LOVE FOR ANYONE TO COMMENT WITH THEIR IDEAS ON THIS.

The newly engaged Katie Holmes still has some explaining to do to her friends and family.

There are 16 missing days on her calendar from April 2005. No one seems to know where she was during that time.

Holmes made a public appearance on Monday, April 4 at the premiere of "Steel Magnolias" on Broadway. She came with her publicist, Leslie Sloane Zelnick, and a couple of other friends. They were there to support Rebecca Gayheart, who was making her Broadway debut.

I know this because I spoke to Holmes at length during the play's intermission. She said she had just moved into her New York apartment and was looking forward to seeing the city.

I also know that on April 4, she had not yet made the acquaintance of Tom Cruise. She briefly dated Josh Hartnett after breaking up with actor Chris Klein.

Hartnett, Klein, Cruise: Which of these three is not like the others?

Klein and Hartnett are young and tall. Cruise is middle-aged and height-challenged.

On the other hand, he's the biggest movie star in the world. They are not.

Holmes was busy during that first week in April. On Thursday, April 7, she was photographed at the Fragrance Foundation's FiFi event.

Four days later, Holmes was still in New York and was photographed at VH1's "Save the Music" concert. She still had not met Tom Cruise.

Sometime that week, her friends say, she flew to Los Angeles for a meeting with Tom Cruise about a role in "Mission: Impossible 3." The meeting took place after April 11.

The next time anyone heard from Katie Holmes was on April 27, when she appeared in public as Cruise's girlfriend and love of his life.

Where was she during those 16 days?

Somewhere during that time she decided to fire both her manager and agent, each of whom she had been with for years and who were devoted to her. The manager, John Carrabino, also handles Renée Zellweger and is beloved by his clients.

Holmes also acquired a new best friend, Jessica Feshbach, the daughter of Joe Feshbach, a controversial Palo Alto, Calif., bond trader.

The Feshbach family, according to published documents, has donated millions to the Church of Scientology. Jessica's aunt even runs a Scientology center in Florida.

According to Richard Behar's now famous 1991 story in Time magazine about Scientology, the Feshbachs were the subject of congressional hearings in 1989.

Behar wrote: "The heads of several companies claimed that Feshbach operatives have spread false information to government agencies and posed in various guises — such as a Securities and Exchange Commission official — in an effort to discredit the companies and drive the stocks down. Michael Russell, who ran a chain of business journals, testified that a Feshbach employee called his bankers and interfered with his loans. Sometimes the Feshbachs send private detectives to dig up dirt on firms, which is then shared with business reporters, brokers and fund managers."

The risk-taking Feshbachs, known the world over for making their fortune "shorting" stocks, and the level-headed, conservative Holmeses would be a difficult mix at a dinner table.

Katie's father, Martin Holmes, is the senior partner in a large and respected Toledo, Ohio, law firm. His son, Martin Jr., has recently joined the firm. He's a Harvard graduate. Katie's mom, Kathy, is frequently cited in Toledo for her charity work.

There is some fear among Holmes' close circle that her instant romance with Tom Cruise is not as organic as portrayed.

For one thing, Holmes was raised a strict Catholic. Also, gone from the picture are two close Holmes friends who used to be with her when she did publicity for a film. One of these is Meghann Birie, a childhood friend who has suddenly disappeared from Katie's world. Another, a local TV producer here in New York, was too afraid to discuss the situation with me.

We know that Cruise auditioned several actresses for this role before settling on Holmes. This column reported a story about Jennifer Garner. There have been published stories about Kate Bosworth, Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Alba being approached. A newer one involves Scarlett Johansson, who ran for her life when presented with a fait accompli dinner at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood.

And history has been rewritten since the April 27 unveiling.

Curiously, since the Cruise-Holmes situation popped up, we have heard over and over again that Cruise was the young actress' idol when she was growing up.

That's certainly interesting because all of the publicity that used to run on Holmes — still found all over the Internet — lists another Tom as her favorite actor. That would be Tom Hanks .

That stuff I said about Scientlogy is pretty near factual. You can find some info on the net...What surprises me is that QUITE A FEW celebrities are members of this "organization"....I won't say religion. John Travolta, Kelly Preston, Kirstie Alley, the girl from King of Queens, and more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY???????????????? Is being a celebrity so bad and sressful you have to beieve you're an alien in order to find peace in yourself?

I'm not one to disrespect other people's religions or beliefs...but I don't think scientology is a religion. Do these people really believe that .....

1) an alien being dropped off humans onto earth a million years ago b/c of overpopulation in another galaxy

2) We are all descendants of "alien beings"

3) that you can use a little machine called an e-meter to "travel" through your past lives and correct any damage that has since impaired you on earth (costs are $100,000 and up for this)????????????????????????

This is absolutely absurd!!!!!!! It's a cult!

I also read (in several places) that Tom had a "list" of women he wanted to "court" which included Scarlett Johanssen, Lindsay Lohan, that blond girl w/ Orlando Bloom, and a couple of others. Scarlett reportedly thought it was a "business meeting" concerning their upcoming movie, but she found out that behind the doors were some VERY prominent Scientology members waiting for her...she left and shortly thereafter she left the film.

A coincidence???? I think not. He's a complete lunatic. And she's a sorry follower.

Here in Australia, we all think Tom is GAY!

He recently did an interview with Australian 60 MINUTES...ONLY on the condition that the reporter (Peter Overton) attend a 3 hour 'talk' at the Celebrity Scientology Church. When Peter asked Tom if it upsets him that people think Scientology is a bit wacko, Tom became quite aggressive & controlling & said "that's what YOU think, that's not what other people think!". Yeah...sure Tom, physco!!!!

Makes me question the adoption of the children with Nicole...I've never read any different so I could be wrong...but can't Tom conceive?!

I know, doesn't it? and katie always has her head down as if shes a tamed dog or something...she needs to get away from scientology-obsessed tom.

That shirt on tom does look really homosexual,that was my first thought

Tommie wants Katie to walk behind him to compensate for his disgustingly short stature. And plus, whats with that totally homosexual shirt on him? Poor Katie, she looke like the bitch in the relationship at this point...Maybe he is gay, he looked pretty comfortable with that water squirt on his face in London.